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Search No.   1210 - Howell B Conley

From: Martha Conley []
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 12:13 PM
Subject: Howell B. Conley

I am looking for any information that you may have on Howell B. Conley. All that I know is that he was a ball turret gunner in the 8th Army Air force stationed in England from May 1944 through November 1944. Mom believes he flew 35 missions. You have a great web site.

Martha Conley

Sorry, we have searched our records and were unable to find any record of Howell B Conley in the 379th BG. It is possible that he flew with another BG. If you could find any documents that reflected what bomb group or location he was stationed at that would help in your quest to find additional information.

Responding4 7/16/04

Search No.  1209 - Burrel F Newman

From: Bennie Newman []
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 5:54 PM
Subject: 379th

I am seeking information on my brother, Burrel F. Newman who was a member of 379th Bomb Group, 527th Sq. He was shot down over Germany on June 11, 1943. I have made some contact with some of the pilots of this group, however none of them knew him. Were you in the group at that time. This has been a long time but I am still hoping, I read in the Legion of your re-union. I think the reason I can't find anyone whio knew him is the fact that all of them were killed in action. If you would ask me I think they were suicide missions, even though they may have been necessary. any info would be appreciated.
Thanks and God bless you.
Bennie Newman

Lt Burrel F Newman, pilot, was in the 379th Bombardment Group and flew missions with the 527th Bomb Squadron. The following are the crew and their positions on their 2nd mission to Wilhelmshaven, Germany (U-Boat Pens) June 11, 1943 aircraft 42-3138 (FO-M) "Eight Ball" 527th Sq.

Newman Burrel F. -2nd Lt, P, O-377405, McBee, SC, Netherlands I 20 8
Culler John D. -2nd Lt, CP, O-734074, Jefferson, MD, Netherlands D 20 10
Jackson George W. -2nd Lt, N, O-733433, Glen Osborne, PA, Netherlands B 21 24
Kelly Thomas B. Jr. -2nd Lt,B, O-733318, Chicago, IL, POW
Hyvonen Edward E. -S/SGT, RO, 32333822, Brooklyn, NY, Netherlands B 21 25
Gauthier Leo A. -S/SGT, TT, 11043949, Pawtucket, RI, Netherlands I 14 4
Griffin James T. - S/SGT, BT, 31133632, Fall River, MA, Netherlands H 9 7
Butterfield Joseph V. - S/SGT, RW, 16094889, Wauwatosa, WI, Netherlands K 7 5
Dudley Harold C. -T/SGT, LW, 11042684, Eastport, MA, Netherlands I 20 18
Lauters Raymond D. -S/SGT, TG, 16094106, Pt.Washington, WI, POW

Netherlands is an American European Cemetery in Europe. The number of the grave, row and plot numbers at the Netherlands Cemetery are shown above.

We do not show Thomas Kelly or Raymond Lauters on the current membership roster. We will post your inquiry in our Looking4 section on the 379th BGA Website; perhaps one of our members who knew Burrel will contact you.

The surviability factor was only 1 in 3 of completed 25 missions in the early part of the war. The odds of surviving a tour of duty increased some when the P51 fighter escorts (extended fuel tanks) could protect the bombers to and from the targets. Flak was always a factor and many personnel and aircraft were lost from flak. All aircraft formations would normally return with moderate to extensive battle damage as they could not take evasive action to avoid it. Many of our young men who went to war did not think they would survive it.

Responding4 7 /16/04

Search No.  1208 - Lloyd Burns, Pilot

From:  Nancy Ramacitti []
Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 6:27 PM
Subject: Looking for

We are searching for Lloyd Burns, Pilot in the 379th Bomber Group. He survived the crash in Kimbolton, England. My uncle was the other pilot that was killed. We would like to find him.

Please help us and we would be most grateful.

Thank you.
David F. Ramacitti
Armand P. Ramacitti

The following are the crews (525th BS) and their positions on mission # 146 to Zudausques, France on June 19, 1944.

Aircraft 44-6133 (FF-Y) collided with 42-97942 on return over Gravesend Thames Estuary, England and crashed into the water.

Ramacitti Armand J. -2nd Lt, P, O-759660, Oak Park, IL, Cambridge C 3 30
Hager William J. -2nd Lt, CP, O-701755, Cleveland, OH, Cambridge F 2 106
Watson Donald F. -2nd Lt, N, O-716559, Cleveland, OH, Cambridge C 1 47
Chronopolis Theodore -2nd Lt, B, O-704164, WIA
Ritter Richard (NMI) -SGT, RO, 35535521, Belleville, OH, Cambridge F 2 26
Tognazzini Cecil A - S/SGT, TT, 19161113, Bargar, TX /CA, Cambridge Missing
Burke John P. -S/SGT, TT, 14059710, Atlanta, GA, Cambridge C 3 24
Haynes Paul K. -CPL, WG, 31362371, Weston, MA, Cambridge E 2 11
Oaks Warren G. -SGT, TG, 37298962, White Bear, MN, Cambridge F 4 5

Aircraft 42-97942 (FR-K) collided with 44-6133 on return over Gravesend, Thames Estuary, England.

Burns Lloyd L -1st Lt, P, O-180816, Ret. to base
Kauffman Fred S. -2nd Lt, CP, O-818878, Trenton, NJ, Cambridge Missing
Sadler Edward N. -F/O, N, T-123955, Cleveland, OH, Cambridge A 6 37
Gray Jack L. -2nd Lt, B, O-739088, Ret. to base
Monk Leroy J. -T/SGT, RO, 37469265, Ret. to base
Gibbs Leonard F. -T/SGT, TT, 19024622, Ret. to base
Farmer William H. -S/SGT, BT, 39557878, Ret. to base
Andrews Richard W. -S/SGT, WG, 32752979, Ret. to base
Schulte Louis W. -S/SGT, TG, 37083074, St. Louis, MO, KIA

Lloyd Burns, Richard Andrews, William Farmer and Leonard Gibbs are on the current 379th BGA membership roster.

Responding4 7/12/04

Search No.  1207 - Wilder Nell II

From:  Stephen Montgomery []
Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 2:25 PM
Subject: Info on the Wilder Nell II

Hi, I have a friend at church who flew on the Wilder Nell II, as a tail gunner. His name is Edgar E Schooley Jr. He was shot down and ditched in the Baltic and was the only survivor. He was taken prisoner and spent 13 months as a Pow. I am looking for a picture of the Wilder Nell to build a model of his plane. We are also planning on coming to Dayton in Sept. for the reunion. Any info on his plane and the reunion will be much appreciated. Thank you for your time.
Stephen Montgomery

S/Sgt Edgar Schooley, Tail Gunner, flew 4 missions with the 379th Bombardment Group 525th Bomb Squadron: 41, 42,43 and 44.

525th Sq. Bremen , Germany (Port Area) November 29, 1943 mission number 44 aircraft 42-29787 (FR-E ) "Wilder Nell II". A/C Tail was shot off by 3 FW190's, 1 Chute Seen.

LeFevre Charles H. -2nd Lt, P, O-793793, Drexel Hill, PA, Netherlands N 12 14
Miller John R. -2nd Lt, CP, O-680481, Bakersfield, CA, Netherlands Missing
Spurgiasz Jan - SGT, N, 10601178, Brooklyn, NY, Netherlands Missing
Valsecchi Alfred -2nd Lt, B, O-735349, San Rafael, CA, KIA
Dixon Leonard -T/SGT, RO, 39829734, North Price, UT, Ardennes C 5 3
Mulligan James C. -T/SGT, TT, 14036522, Savannah, GA, KIA
Hunter Robert W. -S/SGT, BT, 34334614, Decatur, AL, Netherlands Missing
Gorn Lion A. -S/SGT, RW, 32411565, New York, NY, Netherlands Missing
Liard Wesley W. -S/SGT, LW, 39537647, Los Angeles, CA, Netherlands Missing
Schooley Edgar E. -S/SGT, TG, 35663792, Hamilton, OH, POW-Stalag 17B

S/Sgt Edgar Schooley was rescued, but was unconscious for 4 days.

Responding4 7/6/04

Search No.  1206 - T/Sgt James Craig

From: mike craig []
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 4:18 PM
Subject: James H. Craig

I am trying to find out about my Father's years in the Eighth Air Force. I remember he use to talk about a triangle K, and Kimbolten, England. He was James H. Craig, he may have been known as Woody. His dates of service were June 4, 1941 to October 18, 1945. I believe one of the planes he was on was named "Hun Runner". According to his seperation papers he flew 30 missions. 24 as the lead radio operator. He was a Technical Sargent at the time of his separation. I am sad to say that my father died in 1989. He never did really talk about those years very much.
Mike Craig

T/Sgt James Craig, Radio Operator/Gunner, was in the 379th Bombardment G and flew missions with the 524th Bomb Squadron from 7/04/44 to 1/20/45. The following are the crew and their positions on their 7th mission to Leipzig, Germany 7/20/44 in aircraft 42-97967 "Hun Runner":

Huau Jr., Joseph H -1st Lt, Pilot
Blumenthal, Milton D -2nd Lt, Co-Pilot
Madden, John E -2nd Lt, Navigator
Tresser, Abraham A -Sgt, Nose Gunner/Togglier
Craig, James H -S/Sgt, Radio Operator/Gunner
Roach Jr., William W -Sgt, Engineer/Top Turret Gunner
Schunk, Robert E -Sgt, Waist Gunner
Smith, Bill M -Sgt, Tail Gunner
Wright, Walter J -Sgt, Tail Gunner

William W Roach is shown on the current Association roster. The crew flew in various aircraft during their tour of duty. They only flew “Hun Runner” on 3 missions. Our records indicate that Sgt Craig flew the following 30 missions with the 524th Bomb Squadron: 158, 159, 160, 161, 162, 168, 170, 171, 172, 178, 180, 184, 186, 192, 196, 227, 230, 235, 238, 239, 241, 242, 245, 246, 249, 250, 252, 259, 265 & 268.

Responding4 6/29/04

Search No.  1205 - 379th BG Jeep

From: DR LAMB []
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 3:18 PM
Subject: Fw: Thought you might like this

I am in the process of re-building a 1953 M37. When it came time to paint and stencil last week I kinda did my own thing. My Great Uncle was the co-pilot on B17 42-3099 which was lost 12 June 1944. Figured it was time someone in the family did something to remind everyone of him and his crew.

DR Lamb,
Thank you for the picture, what a great tribute to your uncle! See F/O Reed J Lamb, Co-Pilot and crew on inquiry 1087 in this section of the (Looking4) Website (the crew of aircraft 42-3099 FO-R) .

Responding4 6/25/04

Search No.  1204 -Oliver's Crew

From: Missy Rung []
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 7:50 PM
Subject: Looking for Oliver's Crew

Hi! I have 2 sets of questions for you:

1) My dad is James E. Rung. He was a navigator in the 524th flying most of his missions on 2 planes, Lil Satan (that my dad knew as Queen O'Hearts) and Hundred Million Dollar Baby. I am looking for any surviving crew members or family members of the crew. I know that his pilot, Willard L. Oliver, Jr. passed away in 2000.

Copilot: James W. Dodson
Bombardier: James A. Lawrence III
Waist Gunner: Kenneth L. Drissel
Radio Operator: John W. Bickel
Engineer: Robert A. Hennings
Ball Turret Gunner: Lester R. Moody
Tail Gunner: John L. Lewis

2) I have some questions about some of the planes my dad flew in. The tail numbers are not complete, but are the number my dad listed in his flight log.

* J7980 - My dad flew in this a/c on his 32nd mission on November 30, 1944. This was possibly mission #245 for the group, but I'm having some difficulty with this one since it's in my dad's flight log with mission comments but he is not credited with the mission in the 8th Airforce database that I found online.
* Linda C7597 - My dad's mission #18, October 5, 1944, 379th BG mission #215.
* Miss Liberty J4388 - My dad's mission #33, December 9, 1944, 379th BG mission #248.
* P4310 - My dad's mission #29, November 20, 1944, 379th BG mission #239.
* S5004 (42-107004?) - Dad's mission August 8, 1944.
* Wanda B Y4110 - Dad's mission #31, November 29, 1944.

Any information you may have about these a/c would be great, especially names. The interesting thing about Linda (C7597) is the information I found on it said it was listed as MIA on 1/31/1944 but my dad flew in the plane on October 5, 1944. Must be a different plane called Linda?

I have made a website of my dad's flight log and memories. Feel free to check it out:
Thank you for your assistance!
Missy Rung

Lt James E Rung, Navigator, flew missions with the 379th Bombardment Group and flew missions with the 524th Bomb Squadron from 7/29/44 to 12/24/44.

The following are the crew and their positions on their 1st mission to Merseburg, Germany 7/28/44 in aircraft 42-32024 "Swamp Fire":

Oliver Jr., Willard L, 2nd Lt, Pilot
Dodson, James W, 2nd Lt, Co-Pilot
Rung, James E, 2nd Lt, Navigator
Lawrence III, James A, 2nd Lt, Bombardier
Bickel, John W, Sgt, Radio Operator/Gunner
Hennings, Robert A, Sgt, Engineer/Top Turret Gunner
Moody, Lester R, Sgt, Ball Turret Gunner
Drissel, Kenneth L, Sgt, Waist Gunner
Lewis, John L, Sgt, Tail Gunner

James A Lawrence III is shown on the current Association roster. Our records indicate that Lt James E. Rung flew the following 38 missions with the 524th Bomb Squadron: 176, 178, 179, 180, 184, 185, 188, 189, 191, 194, 195, 196, 197, 199, 201, 205, 207, 208, 210, 211, 215, 222, 223, 225, 226, 227, 229, 230, 232, 235, 236, 239, 242, 244, 248, 250, 251 & 252.

Aircraft had markings which told what squadron they were in WA 524, FR 525, LF 526 & FO 527. Also each aircraft had a call sign within the squadron (A, B, C, J etc.) The markings were made large on both sides and the tail of the aircraft to easily identify aircraft in the formation as well as those which were shot down or lost due to flak. The original markings were on camouflaged aircraft and were in big white letters. After July 44 the designations were changed, made smaller and only added to the tail above the Triangle; a number designated the Squadron 1 -524, 2 -525, 3 -526, 4 -527 and the call sign letter was below the Triangle on the tail.

Example 42-31597 FO-C "Landa", this was a 527th aircraft with the call sign C and assigned to the 379th on 1/31/44. 11/30/44 on mission # 245 to Zeitz, Germany, this aircraft was identified and reported in debriefing as hit over target; # 1 & # 2 engines on fire, left formation under control, nine chutes seen.

Aircraft were used on their availability; many aircraft were unable to fly next day missions due to damage. Squadrons often flew planes that were operational from other squadrons. In this case on your fathers October 5, 1944 mission, his 524th crew flying their mission in a 527th aircraft called "Landa".
As you can see this was prior to losing the aircraft and crew on 11/30/44.

Lt Rung and crew flew in various aircraft during their tour of duty. Only 9 missions were flown on "LiL Satan" (Queen of Hearts) and 7 missions on "Million Dollar Baby".

We are sure your father really appreciated getting your gift of membership in the Association. We hope to see you both at the 2004 Dayton in September.

Responding4 6/22/04

Search No.  1203 - Steve P Souris

From: Paulette Souris Henry []
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 8:13 AM
Subject: Steve P. Souris

Please help me with the details of my father's war perils. 2nd Lt. Steve P. Souris (2/16/1917) Gary, IN. He was a bombardair on B17 shot down over Germany in October of '43. POW escaped 7 times. Stalag Luft III (center, I believe he said) and Mooseburg and Neurenburg? Also, I did join the 379th assoc. but have not received any confirmation of anything yet. Do you know how long it takes? Thanking you in advance for any information.
Paulette Souris Henry

Lt Steve P Souris, Bombardier, was in the 379th Bombardment Group and flew 8 missions with the 525th Bomb Squadron from 9/09/43 to 10/09/43. The following are the crew on their last mission to Anklam, Germany on 10/09/43 in aircraft 42-37728 (FR-G):

Lash James K. -2nd Lt, P, O-737972, Seattle, WA, POW Stalag 1 (032)
Zepak Eugene M. -2nd Lt, CP, O-680794, North Irwin, PA, POW Stalag 3 (033)
Butler Kerwin O. -2nd Lt, N, O-669985, Enid, OK, POW Stalag 3 (033)
Souris Steve P. -2nd Lt, B, O-738592, Gary, IN, POW Stalag 7A (013) Moosberg
Howell John F. -T/SGT, RO, 33272926, Meadville, PA, POW Stalag 17B (025)
Blair Ralph J. -S/SGT, TT, 37303719, Glenwood, MN, POW
Culley James F. -S/SGT, BT, 33249718, Cresson, PA, POW Stalag 17B (025)
Irvin Benjamin B. -T/SGT, RW, 34036658, Concord, NC, POW Stalag 17B (025)
Preston Lawrence L. -S/SGT, LW, 35516465, Cleveland, OH, POW Stalag 3 (033)
Reggie John J. -S/SGT, TG, 13116380, Swoyersville, PA, POW Stalag 17B (025)

All prisoner of war camps listed above are the last known locations of interment. We do not show any crewmembers on the current Association membership roster. Our records indicate that Lt Steve P Souris flew the following 8 missions with the 525th Bomb Squadron: 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 & 36.

Responding4 6/18/04

Search No.  1202 - Four of a Kind

From:  abbie []
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 7:53 PM
Subject: Four of a Kind - My Dad

My Dad, Robert W. Amos is the first person to the right in the picture. I would like to know what he did during World War II because I have little information other than this picture. Please contact me. I hope you can add this picture to your site. Perhaps someone will be able to identify the others and give me some information. Thanks, Abbie Amos

Sorry, we do not have any records on Robert W. Amos at this time. The picture you emailed was shown on the cover of the April 1998 issue of Contrails. We will post your inquiry in our Looking4 section on the 379th BGA Website; perhaps one of our members will recognize the others pictured.

“The picture was taken on July 6th 1944. We believe the ground crew was that of M/Sgt Glen E. Korthouse. Presumably this was the crew being presented to the Queen in the photo of Contrails. The aircraft selected for inspection was 43-37777 (FR-Q). “Four of A Kind”. We believe that M/Sgt Korthouse and ground crewmembers pictured were responsible for maintaining this aircraft. This lead aircraft was relatively new having arrived from the depot at Burtonwood on the 19th of June along with 3 other replacement aircraft. This ship was originally a formation assembly ship, which started its operations with the 97th BG and flew on the first 8th AF mission on 17th August 1942.”

The above excerpt edited by us was taken from Mervyn Wilson’s letter to the editor on page 10 of the August 1998 issue of Contrails. As a member you can order back issues of Contrails through the PX see ordering information on the homepage of the Website.

Responding4 6/17/04

Search No.  1201 - 379th BG MP Unit

From: John Curran []
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 1:39 PM
Subject: inquiry on MP company that might have been attached to 379 Bomb Group


If you have time to field a question, I would be much in your debt. Did the 379th have a military police company attached to it? I ask because my father, Pfc. Daniel F. Curran Jr., was an MP attached to one of the 8th Air Force heavy bomb groups, but I dont know which one. He passed away three years ago. His grave marker indicates his MP company was no. 1192, but I can't find anything online about that organization.

In doing some online research to try to find out which bomb group his company was attached to, I have used a couple of criteria: 1) he told the the base he was on in England from 1943 to 1945 had only B-17s flying from it. He also told me his group went overseas on the SS Aquitania. Both of those would match the 379th. His company also was included in the presidential unit citations for, I believe, Schweinfurt and Regensburg. He also told me his base (there may have been more than one) was somewhere near to the town of Ipswich, in Sussex. I also recall him saying that after D-Day, when there was less need for MPs at the airfields, that his unit did prisoner processing work maybe in France and in Germany too, but on this point I am less sure.

So, if you know of him or his MP unit being attached to your group, I'd love to know it. If there is somewhere else you can point me to, perhaps some Army research facilities for particular unit histories or for his individual service record, I would be much obliged.

John Curran

The 379th Bombardment Group had the 1059th Military Police Company attachment at Kimbolton during WWII. All Bombardment Groups in England during WWII had MP company's assigned.

We suggest that you 1st try to get a copy his personnel file from the National Personnel Records Center Military Records Branch 9700 Page Ave. St. Louis Mo. 63132-5100. His personnel file should have a complete history of his Military tour of duty. (bases station & groups, schools, medals etc.)

Many personnel files were destroyed in the St. Louis Record Center fire in 1973. The Center uses alternate sources to reconstruct basic service information of records that were lost in the fire. (See URL for form 180 below) They have reconstructed the records and may tell you they don't have them, but they do have something be persistent. Please let us know of your progress.

Good Luck,
Responding4 6/04/04

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